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Chris Pirillo doesn’t get Second Life (and gives us Windows Vista stats)

Chris Pirillo doesn't get Second Life. That's OK, he doesn't get baseball either. I thought Chris' avatar with a bottle sticking out of his head was pretty funny, though. Maybe Chris, all you need to do is hold Eric Rice's hand. Heck, it worked for me. Heheh.

Here's a little secret Chris: Second Life IS lame. Why? Cause the people in Second Life are the ones who built it. Think about that one for a while. Maybe if it's lame you just haven't built something not lame yet.

Actually, we should all just blame this guy, he's a developer at Linden Labs. I forget his name and his card is back at work. I think he's the guy responsible for what my son told me on Thursday "hey, Dad, I got you some waving PRIMs." You know you're getting old when you have to ask your kid "what the heck did you just say?"

But, on the other hand, Chris did do some real reporting (imagine a blogger doing THAT!) and found out that our download servers and Internet links are overloaded thanks to Windows Vista. The Windows Vista team blog has more on that. Oh, that's right, no one cares about good old Microsoft anymore or its lame OS. Heheh.

In other Microsoft news we renamed WinFX to .NET 3.0. 3.0 is always the one that rocks, isn't it?

Oh, and our identity guru, Kim Cameron says he likes the new Cardspace name too, for what used to be called InfoCards. Anyway, now I'm really leaving to go to VLoggerCon. More from the road.

45 Replies to “Chris Pirillo doesn’t get Second Life (and gives us Windows Vista stats)”

  1. Have you seen the download counts for any hot Linux distro, especially when a new version is released? Oh yeah, those servers don’t crash.

    Btw - you guys use f5 quite extensively, don’t you? Ever checked lately to see what OS those things run? 😉

  2. Have you seen the download counts for any hot Linux distro, especially when a new version is released? Oh yeah, those servers don’t crash.

    Btw - you guys use f5 quite extensively, don’t you? Ever checked lately to see what OS those things run? 😉

  3. “our download servers and Internet links are overloaded thanks to Windows Vista”

    microsoft.com seems to be responding fine. I guess it must be different internet links. This is a bit like with-holding XBOX360 stocks from retailers and then crowing about how it’s so popular that all the stores are sold out!

    How much is it for the Beta download? Now…I wonder…if that has anything to do with it?

  4. “our download servers and Internet links are overloaded thanks to Windows Vista”

    microsoft.com seems to be responding fine. I guess it must be different internet links. This is a bit like with-holding XBOX360 stocks from retailers and then crowing about how it’s so popular that all the stores are sold out!

    How much is it for the Beta download? Now…I wonder…if that has anything to do with it?

  5. Have you stopped to consider the possibility that people are downloading the beta for the same reason that people always slow down as they pass a wreck?

  6. Have you stopped to consider the possibility that people are downloading the beta for the same reason that people always slow down as they pass a wreck?

  9. “our download servers and Internet links are overloaded thanks to Windows Vista”

    From what I’ve heard about frequent timeouts and failed downloads, it is probably just a couple of guys in Canada sitting on the F5 key 🙂 but PLEASE consider using BitTorrent for files this big, I know NIH is a bit of an issue but it makes so much more sense than monolithic downloads.

  10. “our download servers and Internet links are overloaded thanks to Windows Vista”

    From what I’ve heard about frequent timeouts and failed downloads, it is probably just a couple of guys in Canada sitting on the F5 key 🙂 but PLEASE consider using BitTorrent for files this big, I know NIH is a bit of an issue but it makes so much more sense than monolithic downloads.

  13. Robert: When I started in SL I got really excited about it but then got bored after a while. I think SL is kind of like RL in that sense. Say you go to a town in RL, and there are just a bunch of people milling about and some stores. What do you DO?

    The interesting thing about RL is that I can go to Paris, for example, and see the Louvre. I can eat at nice restaurants. I can experience new things with friends I’m travelling with.

    What is the similarity in SL? There are some interesting places, to be sure, but of course you can’t “eat”, and some sights, while impressive, are no where near the physical stimulation of RL imho.

    I think the unique opportunity SL presents is a social environment where it is the norm to just go up to random people on the street or in a bar and talk to them, much more so then you would in RL. That said, the value of this experience then becomes dependent on why you are interacting and what you are coming there for.

    For me, SL would be much more interesting as a virtual conference of sorts, where there are interesting people there all the time to talk to. Technology, probably, maybe politics, whatever. I attended an online conference a month ago that was fairly interesting.

    It would also be more interesting I think for me personally if you could integrate code examples and demos better in the virtual world. So you could go into the AJAX room for example and see some cool stuff along with code snippets (they should make text on whiteboards easier to read in SL btw).

    A final thing would be that SL would be more interesting if more people I knew from RL (friends from nomadlife.org or wherever) had a place to hang out and congregate in a way we can’t do in RL due to geographical differences etc.

    Beyond the above, until SL matches the physical stimulation of RL through VR or something else, I think it is limited as just a general “hang out” for randoms.

    What do you think?

  14. Robert: When I started in SL I got really excited about it but then got bored after a while. I think SL is kind of like RL in that sense. Say you go to a town in RL, and there are just a bunch of people milling about and some stores. What do you DO?

    The interesting thing about RL is that I can go to Paris, for example, and see the Louvre. I can eat at nice restaurants. I can experience new things with friends I’m travelling with.

    What is the similarity in SL? There are some interesting places, to be sure, but of course you can’t “eat”, and some sights, while impressive, are no where near the physical stimulation of RL imho.

    I think the unique opportunity SL presents is a social environment where it is the norm to just go up to random people on the street or in a bar and talk to them, much more so then you would in RL. That said, the value of this experience then becomes dependent on why you are interacting and what you are coming there for.

    For me, SL would be much more interesting as a virtual conference of sorts, where there are interesting people there all the time to talk to. Technology, probably, maybe politics, whatever. I attended an online conference a month ago that was fairly interesting.

    It would also be more interesting I think for me personally if you could integrate code examples and demos better in the virtual world. So you could go into the AJAX room for example and see some cool stuff along with code snippets (they should make text on whiteboards easier to read in SL btw).

    A final thing would be that SL would be more interesting if more people I knew from RL (friends from nomadlife.org or wherever) had a place to hang out and congregate in a way we can’t do in RL due to geographical differences etc.

    Beyond the above, until SL matches the physical stimulation of RL through VR or something else, I think it is limited as just a general “hang out” for randoms.

    What do you think?

  15. Microsoft needs to get over the NIH per Bram’s creation, work out some tracked client-based ID hook hashing. Something or anything, the torrent hate from Softies is just making you look stupid.

    And always with the ‘you don’t get it’ defense. You know some people can “get things” and still NOT like them. Ever considered that possibility? I totally “get” World of Warcraft, but that doesn’t mean I am going to waste my life away on it like Joi Ito. Funny tho, would have pegged Chris Pirillo as the perfect robotic object to love SL, I mean he’s already brain-zapped in front of an LCD 24/7, having “marriage” spats via blog.

  16. Microsoft needs to get over the NIH per Bram’s creation, work out some tracked client-based ID hook hashing. Something or anything, the torrent hate from Softies is just making you look stupid.

    And always with the ‘you don’t get it’ defense. You know some people can “get things” and still NOT like them. Ever considered that possibility? I totally “get” World of Warcraft, but that doesn’t mean I am going to waste my life away on it like Joi Ito. Funny tho, would have pegged Chris Pirillo as the perfect robotic object to love SL, I mean he’s already brain-zapped in front of an LCD 24/7, having “marriage” spats via blog.

  17. @8 Spot on, Christopher! Scoble’s arrogance is off-putting at times. “You guys don’t get it…., thus you are idiots, behind the times…bla bla bla”

    Be more open minded, Scoble. I also “get” Al-Queda’s jhihad, but I don’t agree with it. Sheesh!

  18. @8 Spot on, Christopher! Scoble’s arrogance is off-putting at times. “You guys don’t get it…., thus you are idiots, behind the times…bla bla bla”

    Be more open minded, Scoble. I also “get” Al-Queda’s jhihad, but I don’t agree with it. Sheesh!

  21. Yeah, It looks like there are some people interested in Windows Vista, No Big surprises here, It just funny to see the severs get soo slamed.

  22. Yeah, It looks like there are some people interested in Windows Vista, No Big surprises here, It just funny to see the severs get soo slamed.

  25. @12. Not sure how accurate that story is given that they say Scoble “led corporate blogging at Microsoft” Hasn’t he always told us that he doesn’t get paid for blogging? If that’s true, then how could he be “leading corporate blogging at Microsoft”. I’ve met some bloggers from MS that never even heard of Scoble. (Strange as that may sound)

  26. @12. Not sure how accurate that story is given that they say Scoble “led corporate blogging at Microsoft” Hasn’t he always told us that he doesn’t get paid for blogging? If that’s true, then how could he be “leading corporate blogging at Microsoft”. I’ve met some bloggers from MS that never even heard of Scoble. (Strange as that may sound)

  27. Scoble, congrats on leaving Microsoft! Now you’re no longer in the uncomfortable position of having to defend their more egregious moves 🙂

  28. Scoble, congrats on leaving Microsoft! Now you’re no longer in the uncomfortable position of having to defend their more egregious moves 🙂

  29. I hope Redmond realises their loss. At the risk of sounding twee, you did more than anyone to help them “keep it real”.

  30. I hope Redmond realises their loss. At the risk of sounding twee, you did more than anyone to help them “keep it real”.

  31. .NET 3.0? Well, I suggested John Montgomery to stick to the .NET branding back in November 2003, but by then it was considered too late for it because of the confussion generated by all the marketing mistakes. But you see? We developers allways got it right 🙂

  32. .NET 3.0? Well, I suggested John Montgomery to stick to the .NET branding back in November 2003, but by then it was considered too late for it because of the confussion generated by all the marketing mistakes. But you see? We developers allways got it right 🙂

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  36. What is this rubbish the Vista team are saying about providing any more beta downloads meaning a clogging of the Internet? People just use torrents instead, and that doesn’t clog anything up.

  37. What is this rubbish the Vista team are saying about providing any more beta downloads meaning a clogging of the Internet? People just use torrents instead, and that doesn’t clog anything up.

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  44. All these comments are fine. What does all this mean for the average Joe computer user that can’t get on the Internet server when they want to send an email? How long is this going to last? If it going to get worse or stay the same, what good will it be to have a computer if you can’t use it?

  45. All these comments are fine. What does all this mean for the average Joe computer user that can’t get on the Internet server when they want to send an email? How long is this going to last? If it going to get worse or stay the same, what good will it be to have a computer if you can’t use it?

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