Oh, talking about Rocketboom’s “unbooming” was so much fun, but, let’s be honest, whatever happens to that video show won’t effect our lives as much as the decisions being made inside the corporate offices of eBay today.
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Has anyone come up against eBay’s reserve price trigger? If you place a bid ‘out in front’ of the current bid on an item, hoping to work towards that figure, and somehow by chance your maximum hits the hidden reserve of he seller, your bid will jump to that figure. I got caught. I wonder how many other new players have been caught out as well. It’s almost as if in a live auction the auctioneer looks around an auction room and instead of taking notice of the bids, starts reading the the minds of those present, calling out the maximum people could be prepared to pay right at the outset. Imagine the chaos.
When I tried to get some sense from the ebay.co.uk query staff on why maximum bids are triggered by reserves in this way (when you can find out to contact them) they gave me the polite stonewall ‘we are not going to answer this’ treatment. Is eBay another form of pyramid selling, a trap for the unwary?
Has anyone come up against eBay’s reserve price trigger? If you place a bid ‘out in front’ of the current bid on an item, hoping to work towards that figure, and somehow by chance your maximum hits the hidden reserve of he seller, your bid will jump to that figure. I got caught. I wonder how many other new players have been caught out as well. It’s almost as if in a live auction the auctioneer looks around an auction room and instead of taking notice of the bids, starts reading the the minds of those present, calling out the maximum people could be prepared to pay right at the outset. Imagine the chaos.
When I tried to get some sense from the ebay.co.uk query staff on why maximum bids are triggered by reserves in this way (when you can find out to contact them) they gave me the polite stonewall ‘we are not going to answer this’ treatment. Is eBay another form of pyramid selling, a trap for the unwary?
Has anyone come up against eBay’s reserve price trigger? If you place a bid ‘out in front’ of the current bid on an item, hoping to work towards that figure, and somehow by chance your maximum hits the hidden reserve of he seller, your bid will jump to that figure. I got caught. I wonder how many other new players have been caught out as well. It’s almost as if in a live auction the auctioneer looks around an auction room and instead of taking notice of the bids, starts reading the the minds of those present, calling out the maximum people could be prepared to pay right at the outset. Imagine the chaos.
When I tried to get some sense from the ebay.co.uk query staff on why maximum bids are triggered by reserves in this way (when you can find out to contact them) they gave me the polite stonewall ‘we are not going to answer this’ treatment. Is eBay another form of pyramid selling, a trap for the unwary?
Greetings,
Huh! Following some of the links, I need to note, I’m *not* X-PayPal (I’m not anonymous). Similar thinking, though.
We (and I mean ex-PayPalians) will be shocked, and I really mean *SHOCKED* if Google can come even close to the fraud management developed at PayPal. Nobody else did, and that’s why PayPal was the sole survivor of the payment wars.
Still, Google has the really smart people and a few dozen million dollars to lose in learning (and pissing off customers while they learn), so who knows… I just wouldn’t trust it until they have learned.
Greetings,
Huh! Following some of the links, I need to note, I’m *not* X-PayPal (I’m not anonymous). Similar thinking, though.
We (and I mean ex-PayPalians) will be shocked, and I really mean *SHOCKED* if Google can come even close to the fraud management developed at PayPal. Nobody else did, and that’s why PayPal was the sole survivor of the payment wars.
Still, Google has the really smart people and a few dozen million dollars to lose in learning (and pissing off customers while they learn), so who knows… I just wouldn’t trust it until they have learned.
Greetings,
Huh! Following some of the links, I need to note, I’m *not* X-PayPal (I’m not anonymous). Similar thinking, though.
We (and I mean ex-PayPalians) will be shocked, and I really mean *SHOCKED* if Google can come even close to the fraud management developed at PayPal. Nobody else did, and that’s why PayPal was the sole survivor of the payment wars.
Still, Google has the really smart people and a few dozen million dollars to lose in learning (and pissing off customers while they learn), so who knows… I just wouldn’t trust it until they have learned.
…continued due to < confusion…
If Google Checkout manages to survive a few years and show a <1.5% fraud rate like PayPal does (actually <0.5% last I remember, but 1.5% is the industry norm(!)), then maybe it’s something that eBay will open up to. They DO do what their users demand, eventually.
For what it’s worth, eBay never banned PayPal because PayPal was too big too fast on their site. By the time they had an inside alternative, PayPal already had pwned their userbase.
So they bought us.
…continued due to < confusion…
If Google Checkout manages to survive a few years and show a <1.5% fraud rate like PayPal does (actually <0.5% last I remember, but 1.5% is the industry norm(!)), then maybe it’s something that eBay will open up to. They DO do what their users demand, eventually.
For what it’s worth, eBay never banned PayPal because PayPal was too big too fast on their site. By the time they had an inside alternative, PayPal already had pwned their userbase.
So they bought us.
…continued due to < confusion…
If Google Checkout manages to survive a few years and show a <1.5% fraud rate like PayPal does (actually <0.5% last I remember, but 1.5% is the industry norm(!)), then maybe it’s something that eBay will open up to. They DO do what their users demand, eventually.
For what it’s worth, eBay never banned PayPal because PayPal was too big too fast on their site. By the time they had an inside alternative, PayPal already had pwned their userbase.
So they bought us.
Greetings,
I used to work for PayPal. I was with them for 2.5 years, and I can say for reasonably certain that this is an understandable move *for their userbase* on eBay’s part.
Put simply, if Western Union, CitiBank, and a dozen other companies couldn’t figure out the fraud issue as well as PayPal did, and weren’t willing to take the heat to fight crime like PayPal did (and there was HEAT from the users who got caught in the crossfire), what makes anyone think that Google, a company without ANY of the expertise, can make headway against the perpetual fraudsters? Google hasn’t been transacting in hard cash before, it’s all been in multiple layers removed. Now, with cash on the line, the really smart criminals step up.
If Google Checkout manages to survive a few years and show a
Greetings,
I used to work for PayPal. I was with them for 2.5 years, and I can say for reasonably certain that this is an understandable move *for their userbase* on eBay’s part.
Put simply, if Western Union, CitiBank, and a dozen other companies couldn’t figure out the fraud issue as well as PayPal did, and weren’t willing to take the heat to fight crime like PayPal did (and there was HEAT from the users who got caught in the crossfire), what makes anyone think that Google, a company without ANY of the expertise, can make headway against the perpetual fraudsters? Google hasn’t been transacting in hard cash before, it’s all been in multiple layers removed. Now, with cash on the line, the really smart criminals step up.
If Google Checkout manages to survive a few years and show a
Greetings,
I used to work for PayPal. I was with them for 2.5 years, and I can say for reasonably certain that this is an understandable move *for their userbase* on eBay’s part.
Put simply, if Western Union, CitiBank, and a dozen other companies couldn’t figure out the fraud issue as well as PayPal did, and weren’t willing to take the heat to fight crime like PayPal did (and there was HEAT from the users who got caught in the crossfire), what makes anyone think that Google, a company without ANY of the expertise, can make headway against the perpetual fraudsters? Google hasn’t been transacting in hard cash before, it’s all been in multiple layers removed. Now, with cash on the line, the really smart criminals step up.
If Google Checkout manages to survive a few years and show a