Om Malik: the revenge of Windows Mobile

Ok, up top you say your using a new HTC with WiFi and then down below you say you use the 2125 but from what I’ve seen on Spec. sheets this doesn’t have WiFi built-in. Did you get a super secret phone or what?

Ok, up top you say your using a new HTC with WiFi and then down below you say you use the 2125 but from what I’ve seen on Spec. sheets this doesn’t have WiFi built-in. Did you get a super secret phone or what?

I think it’s a case of not counting Windows Mobile out. S60 outsells Windows Mobile smartphones 10 to 1 at the moment.

I think it’s a case of not counting Windows Mobile out. S60 outsells Windows Mobile smartphones 10 to 1 at the moment.

Also, hearing that MS is 12 months out from having a single chip processor is depressing. With competition already present and knowing that Microsoft’s timelines are never on target makes me want to slit my wrists right now. The SmartPhone has been the best creation ever but for God’s sake come out with some decent handsets because so far there is the HTC Sp5m and Sp5. That is it…. How about a flip phone that doesn’t lock up when somebody calls?

Also, hearing that MS is 12 months out from having a single chip processor is depressing. With competition already present and knowing that Microsoft’s timelines are never on target makes me want to slit my wrists right now. The SmartPhone has been the best creation ever but for God’s sake come out with some decent handsets because so far there is the HTC Sp5m and Sp5. That is it…. How about a flip phone that doesn’t lock up when somebody calls?

Fast and furious? Been around for ages, only now getting minor hooks, but even that’s piddling. And still only now getting push after Blackberry created a phenom. And have you even heard of Symbian? Juha Christensen sure trainwrecked, eh? Now just wetting his pants with FlashCast.

“Symbian is reporting a 136 per cent increase in the number of handsets that use its operating system, nearly four times the projected growth for Microsoft’s Windows Mobile. With 60 million phones shipped cumulatively, the software company said it now has between 60 and 70 per cent of the smart phone market.”

Fast and furious? Been around for ages, only now getting minor hooks, but even that’s piddling. And still only now getting push after Blackberry created a phenom. And have you even heard of Symbian? Juha Christensen sure trainwrecked, eh? Now just wetting his pants with FlashCast.

“Symbian is reporting a 136 per cent increase in the number of handsets that use its operating system, nearly four times the projected growth for Microsoft’s Windows Mobile. With 60 million phones shipped cumulatively, the software company said it now has between 60 and 70 per cent of the smart phone market.”

Taylor: yes. I have a secret phone. There are a lot better phones coming. Mine doesn’t lock up.

Taylor: yes. I have a secret phone. There are a lot better phones coming. Mine doesn’t lock up.

Well, use some of those connections to make me a beta tester. I’d love to test some WM5.0 phones and even blog about them! I’ve got the SP5 (audiovox rebrand) but can’t see moving to a SP5M unless Cingular turns the WiFi back on.

Well, use some of those connections to make me a beta tester. I’d love to test some WM5.0 phones and even blog about them! I’ve got the SP5 (audiovox rebrand) but can’t see moving to a SP5M unless Cingular turns the WiFi back on.

Once again, Mr. Coulter shows up with his snide remarks. Thank you for enlightening us with your brilliance.

I find it amusing that while you “rigorously” question every single MS statement, you’re willing to shill for Symbian with a direct quote from one of their press releases. Whoring much for Symbian today? Other reports I’ve seen show Symbian losing market share (e.g. http://linuxdevices.com/news/NS2742315828.html). The simple truth is that while Symbian is fairly dominant there’s plenty of room for growth for all devices. Nokia isn’t the only game in town, even if they are doing very well at the moment. But hey, don’t let the “facts” get in the way of a fine troll.

Once again, Mr. Coulter shows up with his snide remarks. Thank you for enlightening us with your brilliance.

I find it amusing that while you “rigorously” question every single MS statement, you’re willing to shill for Symbian with a direct quote from one of their press releases. Whoring much for Symbian today? Other reports I’ve seen show Symbian losing market share (e.g. http://linuxdevices.com/news/NS2742315828.html). The simple truth is that while Symbian is fairly dominant there’s plenty of room for growth for all devices. Nokia isn’t the only game in town, even if they are doing very well at the moment. But hey, don’t let the “facts” get in the way of a fine troll.

Scoble, where can we find the nice green theme for the smartphone that is all over the MS Windows Mobile site but not installed on the 2125?

Thanks and it is a great phone.

Scoble, where can we find the nice green theme for the smartphone that is all over the MS Windows Mobile site but not installed on the 2125?

Thanks and it is a great phone.

Ok, I’m with you on the WM5 based phones coming out - great stuff!!

But your last line where you mentioned a snomobiling trip made me smile - out here in Minnesota, we’ve had a mild winter with not much opportunity to ride. Hope you had a great time - I’m envious!

Ok, I’m with you on the WM5 based phones coming out - great stuff!!

But your last line where you mentioned a snomobiling trip made me smile - out here in Minnesota, we’ve had a mild winter with not much opportunity to ride. Hope you had a great time - I’m envious!

@ John A. Wolf: You can find the theme here: http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/downloads/themes.mspx
Enjoy!

@ John A. Wolf: You can find the theme here: http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/downloads/themes.mspx
Enjoy!

Windows Mobile (the phone I currently use, alas only WM2003) is losing a serious advantage if the rumors of Skype for Symbian are true (and if Skype will use the WI-Fi connection on phones like the Nokia 9300 and the Nokia N91). The main obstacle with WM is features… All the devices should be playforsure devices (and they should be offered with a trial subscription to Napster or whatever) and simple things should be simple (locking the phone, turning wifi on/off, music must stop when phone rings, etc…)

Windows Mobile (the phone I currently use, alas only WM2003) is losing a serious advantage if the rumors of Skype for Symbian are true (and if Skype will use the WI-Fi connection on phones like the Nokia 9300 and the Nokia N91). The main obstacle with WM is features… All the devices should be playforsure devices (and they should be offered with a trial subscription to Napster or whatever) and simple things should be simple (locking the phone, turning wifi on/off, music must stop when phone rings, etc…)

Alfredo: I’m sure Skype will show up on other OS’s too. Particularly if said OS’s have popular Wifi phones.

Alfredo: I’m sure Skype will show up on other OS’s too. Particularly if said OS’s have popular Wifi phones.

There’s definately a lot of new WM5.0 devices that were recently announced at 3GSM.

But I think there should be a bigger dive into the 3G market (I know there are some devices that have been announced on sites such as Engadget that are 3G capable, there just doesn’t seem to be many.) Because ultimately, that’s where WM based devices will thrive.

Using data services over 3G is faster, and an all round better experience compared with GSM. From memory, the i-mate JasJar is one that works on a HSDPA network. But that’s just one device, and a bit out of the price range for a large majority of consumers. If there was devices that were offered at reasonable prices on a 3G network, I think that would sell. (And it would be a sign to .NET developers to start sharpening up those Compact Framework development skills!)

Wifi is good, but 3G services ultimately have better coverage. Some carriers just need to bring down their data consumption prices.

Over here in Australia we’ve got one mature player (Hutchison & Telecom aka “3″) in the 3G market, and the other major telcos (Telstra, Optus, Vodafone) have started (as of late last year) offering 3G services to their customers.

There’s definately a lot of new WM5.0 devices that were recently announced at 3GSM.

But I think there should be a bigger dive into the 3G market (I know there are some devices that have been announced on sites such as Engadget that are 3G capable, there just doesn’t seem to be many.) Because ultimately, that’s where WM based devices will thrive.

Using data services over 3G is faster, and an all round better experience compared with GSM. From memory, the i-mate JasJar is one that works on a HSDPA network. But that’s just one device, and a bit out of the price range for a large majority of consumers. If there was devices that were offered at reasonable prices on a 3G network, I think that would sell. (And it would be a sign to .NET developers to start sharpening up those Compact Framework development skills!)

Wifi is good, but 3G services ultimately have better coverage. Some carriers just need to bring down their data consumption prices.

Over here in Australia we’ve got one mature player (Hutchison & Telecom aka “3″) in the 3G market, and the other major telcos (Telstra, Optus, Vodafone) have started (as of late last year) offering 3G services to their customers.

“I find it amusing that while you “rigorously” question every single MS statement, you’re willing to shill for Symbian with a direct quote from one of their press releases”

Do you mean that the troll who always says don’t believe the marketing hyper is actually quoting from it. WOW he’s just got soooooooo much respect around here!

“I find it amusing that while you “rigorously” question every single MS statement, you’re willing to shill for Symbian with a direct quote from one of their press releases”

Do you mean that the troll who always says don’t believe the marketing hyper is actually quoting from it. WOW he’s just got soooooooo much respect around here!

Damon, spare me your Linux utopia, and it wasn’t from a Press Release, rather a News Report, well they gleaned info from the announcements I guess, but then they were vetted. And if Symbian is playing fuzzy accounting games it will come back to haunt them, bigtime. But the fuzzy accounting generally more comes from Linux weenies flagging up wild scenarios and anti-Microsoft plots that are not at all grounded in any sort of reality. But likewise for Microsoft’s “Get the Facts” marketing crap.

But regardless of any Symbian vs. Linux argument, I would more argue that Microsoft is just barely staying in the game — now that may look like a ‘wave’ to Scoble and Om, but look at the big picture here, Microsoft is but microscopic on the world stage. And that’s not up for debate. So when Scoble tries to spin this as a massive push forward, it’s in reality, just hanging on by fingernails.

Damon, spare me your Linux utopia, and it wasn’t from a Press Release, rather a News Report, well they gleaned info from the announcements I guess, but then they were vetted. And if Symbian is playing fuzzy accounting games it will come back to haunt them, bigtime. But the fuzzy accounting generally more comes from Linux weenies flagging up wild scenarios and anti-Microsoft plots that are not at all grounded in any sort of reality. But likewise for Microsoft’s “Get the Facts” marketing crap.

But regardless of any Symbian vs. Linux argument, I would more argue that Microsoft is just barely staying in the game — now that may look like a ‘wave’ to Scoble and Om, but look at the big picture here, Microsoft is but microscopic on the world stage. And that’s not up for debate. So when Scoble tries to spin this as a massive push forward, it’s in reality, just hanging on by fingernails.

Vetted? Puhleaze. Symbian is reporting….. Sounds like a press release to me. I guess you’re used to believing anything that agree with your myopic view of the world.

Strange how when announcements are made about products you dislike, it’s “fuzzy accounting” and “marketing crap”. But when you agree with it, suddenly it’s gospel. Like I said, whoring for Symbian much lately?

I wasn’t even saying that Linux is some utopia. I was simply pointing out that, oddly enough, there’re plenty of people who disagree with your view. Your definition of “hanging by fingernails” is odd, when there’re over 100 different MS smartphones distributed by over 55 providers worldwide and they’ve got roughly 20% of the market by the measurements of non-Symbian shills. But hey, don’t let the facts change your opinion.

As far as I can tell, you’re just a bully on some crusade because you’ve got some bug up your ass about Scoble. So you feel the need to be generally disagreeable and insulting while spouting off meaningless statements about your “brilliant” observations. I ask again, what are your credentials? Why exactly should we believe an ounce of what you have to say? Do you run a large investment fund that specializes in technology? Perhaps you’re a professional researcher who actually studies the market? I suspect most of your “I would argue” statements are simply pulled out of your nether regions while sitting in your basement in an attempt to sound smart. I’ve said before, and I’ll say again, feel free to stay away if you disagree so much with Scoble. No one’s forcing you to read his blog.

Vetted? Puhleaze. Symbian is reporting….. Sounds like a press release to me. I guess you’re used to believing anything that agree with your myopic view of the world.

Strange how when announcements are made about products you dislike, it’s “fuzzy accounting” and “marketing crap”. But when you agree with it, suddenly it’s gospel. Like I said, whoring for Symbian much lately?

I wasn’t even saying that Linux is some utopia. I was simply pointing out that, oddly enough, there’re plenty of people who disagree with your view. Your definition of “hanging by fingernails” is odd, when there’re over 100 different MS smartphones distributed by over 55 providers worldwide and they’ve got roughly 20% of the market by the measurements of non-Symbian shills. But hey, don’t let the facts change your opinion.

As far as I can tell, you’re just a bully on some crusade because you’ve got some bug up your ass about Scoble. So you feel the need to be generally disagreeable and insulting while spouting off meaningless statements about your “brilliant” observations. I ask again, what are your credentials? Why exactly should we believe an ounce of what you have to say? Do you run a large investment fund that specializes in technology? Perhaps you’re a professional researcher who actually studies the market? I suspect most of your “I would argue” statements are simply pulled out of your nether regions while sitting in your basement in an attempt to sound smart. I’ve said before, and I’ll say again, feel free to stay away if you disagree so much with Scoble. No one’s forcing you to read his blog.

I’ve had my Audiovox SMT5600 for almost a year now and it’s still one of the best cell phones around, IMHO. I’ve seen a few other SmartPhones, but still like the way the Audiovox feels. Don’t even see why I should upgrade for another year or so.

I’ve had my Audiovox SMT5600 for almost a year now and it’s still one of the best cell phones around, IMHO. I’ve seen a few other SmartPhones, but still like the way the Audiovox feels. Don’t even see why I should upgrade for another year or so.

I made the jump from a Palm phone to a Sprint’s PPC-6700 (HTC Wizard) a month ago. The EVDO data is blistering fast for a phone/pda data connection. WiFi (with VPN capability) lets me hop on my corporate net and diagnose/configure access points, VNC into servers to admin, use Skype client, etc etc etc). Unlimited EVDO with Sprint for $15, and in a pinch I can tether the phone to my laptop (USB or bluetooth) and use as a wireless modem.

With a google search bar on the Today screen, its like having the web’s catalogue of knowledge in my front pocket. Very impressive.

I’d have to say however, this device is still stronger as a PDA than as a phone. One handed dialing still sucks, although MS Voice Command makes earpiece/handsfree dialing less cumbersome. There are also a few features Palm has had since its first incarnation that are noticably missing from WM5. The ability to make individual contacts/appointments/tasks private (as well as toggle the private view). IMO a glaring oversight as I use the device both for work and for personal data. I’d much prefer to keep doctors appointments and social engagements private/hidden when the need arises to demo the unit at work.

In any event, after testing the device’s capabilities for a month I feel it’s strongly suited for corporate deployment and have ordered an initial 50 units for a trial implementation for users accessing web based apps while in the field.

Alfredo, all the issues you mention are addressed in WM5, with the exception (atleast on my device) of plays for sure. Not a compelling feature for me in the corporate environment, but I can see where it would be useful as a consumer feature. I would counter that complaint by saying that MP3s certainly play for sure, and with the high speed data (EVDO or wifi) streaming radio works flawlessly. A Real Rhapsody client would be a godsend however.

I made the jump from a Palm phone to a Sprint’s PPC-6700 (HTC Wizard) a month ago. The EVDO data is blistering fast for a phone/pda data connection. WiFi (with VPN capability) lets me hop on my corporate net and diagnose/configure access points, VNC into servers to admin, use Skype client, etc etc etc). Unlimited EVDO with Sprint for $15, and in a pinch I can tether the phone to my laptop (USB or bluetooth) and use as a wireless modem.

With a google search bar on the Today screen, its like having the web’s catalogue of knowledge in my front pocket. Very impressive.

I’d have to say however, this device is still stronger as a PDA than as a phone. One handed dialing still sucks, although MS Voice Command makes earpiece/handsfree dialing less cumbersome. There are also a few features Palm has had since its first incarnation that are noticably missing from WM5. The ability to make individual contacts/appointments/tasks private (as well as toggle the private view). IMO a glaring oversight as I use the device both for work and for personal data. I’d much prefer to keep doctors appointments and social engagements private/hidden when the need arises to demo the unit at work.

In any event, after testing the device’s capabilities for a month I feel it’s strongly suited for corporate deployment and have ordered an initial 50 units for a trial implementation for users accessing web based apps while in the field.

Alfredo, all the issues you mention are addressed in WM5, with the exception (atleast on my device) of plays for sure. Not a compelling feature for me in the corporate environment, but I can see where it would be useful as a consumer feature. I would counter that complaint by saying that MP3s certainly play for sure, and with the high speed data (EVDO or wifi) streaming radio works flawlessly. A Real Rhapsody client would be a godsend however.

Thanks, Ira, I will check a WM5 phone as soon as I can. You are right that as a corporate user (and I do use my Pocket PC phone for things as VPNs and remotely configuring access points), the playforsure thing is not a big deal. It just bothers me that I have this Windows portable device (with very good stereo sound by the way) and I still can’t access a subscription service. Who will get there first: Microsoft or Nokia? Right now I’d say Microsoft has the upper hand. I’m recommending Pocket PC phones to anyone that says they want a Treo 650 and a Symbian phone to people that say they want a normal phone with a few extra features. Skype has been the big selling point when I show them how I use it they generally buy it, and I know it will move to other plattforms. The music thing is a very common question, specially in view of the Motorola and Sony Ericsson music phones (“No, it doesn’t work with iTunes or with any music store”). I don’t think I’ll ever get rid of my Pocket PC/Phone, but I would love to be able to recommend it to everybody, without reservations.

Thanks, Ira, I will check a WM5 phone as soon as I can. You are right that as a corporate user (and I do use my Pocket PC phone for things as VPNs and remotely configuring access points), the playforsure thing is not a big deal. It just bothers me that I have this Windows portable device (with very good stereo sound by the way) and I still can’t access a subscription service. Who will get there first: Microsoft or Nokia? Right now I’d say Microsoft has the upper hand. I’m recommending Pocket PC phones to anyone that says they want a Treo 650 and a Symbian phone to people that say they want a normal phone with a few extra features. Skype has been the big selling point when I show them how I use it they generally buy it, and I know it will move to other plattforms. The music thing is a very common question, specially in view of the Motorola and Sony Ericsson music phones (“No, it doesn’t work with iTunes or with any music store”). I don’t think I’ll ever get rid of my Pocket PC/Phone, but I would love to be able to recommend it to everybody, without reservations.

Wireless World: $30 billion in TV phones
CHICAGO, Feb. 17 (UPI) — The content isn’t quite up to the level of Kiefer Sutherland’s anti-terrorist, noir drama “24″ just yet, but mobile TV enabled telephones are nonetheless poised for massive market growth, and experts tell United Press International’s Wireless World that the sales could reach $30 billion in the coming years.

A report released this week by Boston-based Strategy Analytics, called “TV Phones: Integration and Power Improvements Needed to Reach 100 Million Sales,” predicts that TV phone sales revenue will soar from $5 billion in this year to more than $30 billion by 2010.By Gene Koprowski

Wireless World: $30 billion in TV phones
CHICAGO, Feb. 17 (UPI) — The content isn’t quite up to the level of Kiefer Sutherland’s anti-terrorist, noir drama “24″ just yet, but mobile TV enabled telephones are nonetheless poised for massive market growth, and experts tell United Press International’s Wireless World that the sales could reach $30 billion in the coming years.

A report released this week by Boston-based Strategy Analytics, called “TV Phones: Integration and Power Improvements Needed to Reach 100 Million Sales,” predicts that TV phone sales revenue will soar from $5 billion in this year to more than $30 billion by 2010.By Gene Koprowski

I was simply pointing out that, oddly enough, there’re plenty of people who disagree with your view.

Per vetted, it was only part of the article. And it’s not so much my view as it is marketshare numbers, people can disagree all they want (Linux Weenies and Microsoft Smartphone fanatics being the most vocal), but when you look past the hard numbers, you put yourself into blind fanboy territory. And no matter how rosy Symbian paints themselves as, they do have a big marketshare impact, and I don’t think they are wrong. And reporting the number of OEMs is classic Microsoft, but OEMs aren’t marketshare, and I seriously dispute even 5%, let alone 20%. I know the OEM game, whenever people would ask about Tablet PCs numbers, Microsoft would hem and haw, blurting out the number of OEMs signed on. The fact that you bit that bait tells me a good deal.

feel free to stay away if you disagree so much with Scoble.

Always two sides to a story. Someone has to say the Emperor Hath No Clothes. Besides, he backhanded edges me on, it’s almost a game. To use classic blogger lingo, ‘you just don’t get it’.

I was simply pointing out that, oddly enough, there’re plenty of people who disagree with your view.

Per vetted, it was only part of the article. And it’s not so much my view as it is marketshare numbers, people can disagree all they want (Linux Weenies and Microsoft Smartphone fanatics being the most vocal), but when you look past the hard numbers, you put yourself into blind fanboy territory. And no matter how rosy Symbian paints themselves as, they do have a big marketshare impact, and I don’t think they are wrong. And reporting the number of OEMs is classic Microsoft, but OEMs aren’t marketshare, and I seriously dispute even 5%, let alone 20%. I know the OEM game, whenever people would ask about Tablet PCs numbers, Microsoft would hem and haw, blurting out the number of OEMs signed on. The fact that you bit that bait tells me a good deal.

feel free to stay away if you disagree so much with Scoble.

Always two sides to a story. Someone has to say the Emperor Hath No Clothes. Besides, he backhanded edges me on, it’s almost a game. To use classic blogger lingo, ‘you just don’t get it’.

I agree about the N90 program - which is why I blogged about it here.

See you later.

I agree about the N90 program - which is why I blogged about it here.

See you later.

You “dispute” 5%? OK, where are your sources? Your “facts” are, in fact, simply made up out of your own hot air. Reports by credible research agencies who do this for a living are dismissed through a simple wave of the hand by the brilliance of Coulter. The reports are wrong simply because Coulter disputes it. All who disagree are labeled Linux weenies and Microsoft shills. Surely mere logic cannot withstand such rhetoric. The only document you’ve cited so far is an obvious Symbian PR piece. The Emperor indeed hath no clothes, but Scoble is hardly the Emperor here, Christopher Caligula.

Yes, OEMs are not marketshare, but there are two points here:
- Many OEMs are apparently willing to provide phones for an OS which, according to you, sells nothing. I don’t know who these OEMs are, but hey, hook me up; I also have a made-up OS with no apparent market share to sell to them.
- I also cited a document which links to other docs that have concrete information, as opposed to, you know, the random pontifications of some internet bozo.

Once again, you who dispute all and know so much. State your credentials. Why should anyone believe you? So far you’ve displayed no credibility save an axe to grind. To use classic blogger lingo, ‘you just don’t get it’.

You “dispute” 5%? OK, where are your sources? Your “facts” are, in fact, simply made up out of your own hot air. Reports by credible research agencies who do this for a living are dismissed through a simple wave of the hand by the brilliance of Coulter. The reports are wrong simply because Coulter disputes it. All who disagree are labeled Linux weenies and Microsoft shills. Surely mere logic cannot withstand such rhetoric. The only document you’ve cited so far is an obvious Symbian PR piece. The Emperor indeed hath no clothes, but Scoble is hardly the Emperor here, Christopher Caligula.

Yes, OEMs are not marketshare, but there are two points here:
- Many OEMs are apparently willing to provide phones for an OS which, according to you, sells nothing. I don’t know who these OEMs are, but hey, hook me up; I also have a made-up OS with no apparent market share to sell to them.
- I also cited a document which links to other docs that have concrete information, as opposed to, you know, the random pontifications of some internet bozo.

Once again, you who dispute all and know so much. State your credentials. Why should anyone believe you? So far you’ve displayed no credibility save an axe to grind. To use classic blogger lingo, ‘you just don’t get it’.

Damon, I am not going to tit for tat, I could endlesly pound you with tons of analyst and various other stats, grepping in Gartner and ilk, or culling from my press listservs, or go hog wild on Lex/Nex, heck I could write a book, but each sourcing has their own set of spin. But I can say with confidence, without even looking that Symbian toasts Microsoft Smartphone in worldwide marketshare, where exactly you place that dial, depends on the sourcing. But all my indicators, have Symbian well up, and that’s not up for debate. What other point you have? Debating percentages? Spare me that.

And I think it’s funny this push for “credentials” from blogger types, who spend all their time telling us that Enthusiasts, Amateurs, and Average Joes are in charge, not the Experts, PR people or Journalists, and that the Press World is now flat, yet they demand their critics show their papers at the door. Double standard, but my Tour of CIO duties, would be credentials enough for most. Where’s Scoble credentials? He just links to someone jazzed up by Microsoft song and dances near 3GSM. I find the “timing” suspect. So true, so true…

“Once a year, whether it needs it or not (but oh boy, it does…) Microsoft shows up at 3GSM with the latest release of its explanation of why its mobile business is not totalled.” - http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/02/14/ms_explains_at_3gsm/

PS - OEMs hedge bets all the time, betting on all tables, and it’s half future investment style. So yes, they can bet on an OS that sells next to nothing.

Damon, I am not going to tit for tat, I could endlesly pound you with tons of analyst and various other stats, grepping in Gartner and ilk, or culling from my press listservs, or go hog wild on Lex/Nex, heck I could write a book, but each sourcing has their own set of spin. But I can say with confidence, without even looking that Symbian toasts Microsoft Smartphone in worldwide marketshare, where exactly you place that dial, depends on the sourcing. But all my indicators, have Symbian well up, and that’s not up for debate. What other point you have? Debating percentages? Spare me that.

And I think it’s funny this push for “credentials” from blogger types, who spend all their time telling us that Enthusiasts, Amateurs, and Average Joes are in charge, not the Experts, PR people or Journalists, and that the Press World is now flat, yet they demand their critics show their papers at the door. Double standard, but my Tour of CIO duties, would be credentials enough for most. Where’s Scoble credentials? He just links to someone jazzed up by Microsoft song and dances near 3GSM. I find the “timing” suspect. So true, so true…

“Once a year, whether it needs it or not (but oh boy, it does…) Microsoft shows up at 3GSM with the latest release of its explanation of why its mobile business is not totalled.” - http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/02/14/ms_explains_at_3gsm/

PS - OEMs hedge bets all the time, betting on all tables, and it’s half future investment style. So yes, they can bet on an OS that sells next to nothing.

No one is debating that Symbian has the lion’s share of the market. That’s a given. What I take issue with is your statement that Windows Mobile is “just hanging on by fingernails”; a statement that is backed by……nothing. You threw out a quote from a Symbian press release, some insulting comments about Linux weenies and MS shills, and more bull about random numbers you pulled out of nowhere (“I seriously dispute even 5%”). All your opinions are just that, an opinion by random internet guy, backed by nothing but hot air. The only crap around here, amazingly enough, isn’t being spewed by the resident evangelist.

I am not a blogger type, so maybe I’m entitled to ask for some credentials? With Scoble, at least, I know where I stand. All you have are your bombastic ramblings that most people simply ignore. You don’t even bother backing it up with facts. No, I don’t want to debate percentages with someone who has no data to back himself up.

OEM hedge bets by spending millions on stuff that doesn’t, at least, have some hope of selling? Wow, amazing. It sounds like something out of a Dilbertian nightmare; “Johnson! Time to hedge our bets. Here’s a few hundred million, go spend it on something no one buys!” Statements like that make your claims sound even more ludicrous.

BTW, I love how you first quote a Symbian PR piece and then the Register as your sources. Classic. Does any other online publication have a lower credibility than the Register? It’s hard to have a paper that’s entirely consisted of troll posts, but that rag comes close. Too bad you don’t have any more emails to forward to your pal Andrew Orlowski over there to create more sensationalistic headlines.

No one is debating that Symbian has the lion’s share of the market. That’s a given. What I take issue with is your statement that Windows Mobile is “just hanging on by fingernails”; a statement that is backed by……nothing. You threw out a quote from a Symbian press release, some insulting comments about Linux weenies and MS shills, and more bull about random numbers you pulled out of nowhere (“I seriously dispute even 5%”). All your opinions are just that, an opinion by random internet guy, backed by nothing but hot air. The only crap around here, amazingly enough, isn’t being spewed by the resident evangelist.

I am not a blogger type, so maybe I’m entitled to ask for some credentials? With Scoble, at least, I know where I stand. All you have are your bombastic ramblings that most people simply ignore. You don’t even bother backing it up with facts. No, I don’t want to debate percentages with someone who has no data to back himself up.

OEM hedge bets by spending millions on stuff that doesn’t, at least, have some hope of selling? Wow, amazing. It sounds like something out of a Dilbertian nightmare; “Johnson! Time to hedge our bets. Here’s a few hundred million, go spend it on something no one buys!” Statements like that make your claims sound even more ludicrous.

BTW, I love how you first quote a Symbian PR piece and then the Register as your sources. Classic. Does any other online publication have a lower credibility than the Register? It’s hard to have a paper that’s entirely consisted of troll posts, but that rag comes close. Too bad you don’t have any more emails to forward to your pal Andrew Orlowski over there to create more sensationalistic headlines.

Forgot about Nokia’s software for photo blogging, i.e. forget about Lifeblog.

use Shozu (shozu.com). It’s much better and easier to use because it suspends and resumes upload when you lose mobile connectivity

Roland “i love Shozu and have no interest in the company” Tanglao

Forgot about Nokia’s software for photo blogging, i.e. forget about Lifeblog.

use Shozu (shozu.com). It’s much better and easier to use because it suspends and resumes upload when you lose mobile connectivity

Roland “i love Shozu and have no interest in the company” Tanglao