Search done? These two say “hell no”

I have been checking into other search engines that do something better than the big three. I’ve found two:

Quintura. Has a cool new UI. Here’s a demo. (You can try it out, but it requires a download and install of a client application). I find that this is a bit frustrating to use. I like iterating through many searches that are subsets of the first search and getting back to try a new search isn’t very intuitive. But, once you get used to it this is a really cool way to search cause it shows you the other possible choices.

Kosmix. This afternoon I talked with their executive team after getting out of the Entrepreneur event. I asked them what Google does better. Most things it turns out. But they found a really important place where they are dramatically better than Google. Where? Whenever you have an open-ended search that has no “right” answers. For instance, search Google for “Diabetes” and you’ll get 10 answers alright, but they are rarely useful results. Kosmix gives a lot better grouping of answers. Update: Kosmix’ Kevin Ota tells me they’ll turn on their engine with a better UI on February 7 (and a bunch of new features when they ship it officially at the Demo conference).

Is search done? Not according to these two companies.

Or, ask Gary Price of Search Engine Watch. He just linked to TVEyes that does a new keyword search of TV News Content and other video stuff.

Are you seeing other companies do cool things in the search world?

  • http://www.healthline.com/ Anonymous

    Try a search for Diabetes on Healthline (a site specifically built for consumer health search); look at the Healthmaps and Board, Narrow, Related options listed at the top of the page (“search ideas”); navigate through the hierarchy and explore a true health ontology, vs. topic clustering. Look at the “Trust Marks” on the listings. IMO, the best health search experience on the web.

  • http://mcmanus.typepad.com/ Jeffrey McManus
  • http://www.healthline.com Anonymous

    Try a search for Diabetes on Healthline (a site specifically built for consumer health search); look at the Healthmaps and Board, Narrow, Related options listed at the top of the page (“search ideas”); navigate through the hierarchy and explore a true health ontology, vs. topic clustering. Look at the “Trust Marks” on the listings. IMO, the best health search experience on the web.

  • http://mcmanus.typepad.com/ Jeffrey McManus
  • http://www.meatballmarketing.com/ Paul Short

    “Are you seeing other companies do cool things in the search world?”

    Derek Franklin’s WhoNu.com is worth checking out, IMO.

  • http://www.meatballmarketing.com Paul Short

    “Are you seeing other companies do cool things in the search world?”

    Derek Franklin’s WhoNu.com is worth checking out, IMO.

  • Christopher Coulter

    Quintura - bad branding, sounds like an Aussie airline, or an Amway MLM web service (Quixtar), and then darned frustrating to use, for something of limited value, too bogging down. Visual context-based, vs. keywording, this won’t mainstream, what’s the point, really? Hoop jumping for sidebar visual choices. Rah rah. And wow, a client app, that will collect data and spy on me? I hope this thing isn’t rootkitty or spywarey. What have I wrought?

    Kosmix - Gives a lot better grouping of answers? Oh you mean like Yahoo? And like all the human-edited web directories before Google’s automated dish-serving became a blogger love fest because it picked up the blog noise rot? And like Teoma? — which is now buried in Ask Jeevesy no-man-lands. Human-edited is good, however, but talk about a late start.

    Next…

    PS - Hey, an American Idolism for Web 2.0 start-ups? Oh would that be fun. As long as you get nearly armed bodyguards to protect against the over-aggressive near-insane Plaxoheads.

  • Christopher Coulter

    Quintura - bad branding, sounds like an Aussie airline, or an Amway MLM web service (Quixtar), and then darned frustrating to use, for something of limited value, too bogging down. Visual context-based, vs. keywording, this won’t mainstream, what’s the point, really? Hoop jumping for sidebar visual choices. Rah rah. And wow, a client app, that will collect data and spy on me? I hope this thing isn’t rootkitty or spywarey. What have I wrought?

    Kosmix - Gives a lot better grouping of answers? Oh you mean like Yahoo? And like all the human-edited web directories before Google’s automated dish-serving became a blogger love fest because it picked up the blog noise rot? And like Teoma? — which is now buried in Ask Jeevesy no-man-lands. Human-edited is good, however, but talk about a late start.

    Next…

    PS - Hey, an American Idolism for Web 2.0 start-ups? Oh would that be fun. As long as you get nearly armed bodyguards to protect against the over-aggressive near-insane Plaxoheads.

  • http://www.meatballmarketing.com/ Paul Short

    Sorry bout the broken link in my comment above. Mistyped the ; instead of : in the url :(

  • http://www.meatballmarketing.com Paul Short

    Sorry bout the broken link in my comment above. Mistyped the ; instead of : in the url :(

  • http://scobleizer.wordpress.com/ scobleizer

    Paul, that’s cool. I fixed that. http://www.whonu.com/ is it.

  • http://scobleizer.wordpress.com/ scobleizer

    Paul, that’s cool. I fixed that. http://www.whonu.com/ is it.

  • http://www.gadgetizer.com/ Paul Short

    Thanks Robert ;-)

  • http://www.gadgetizer.com Paul Short

    Thanks Robert ;-)

  • BlogReader

    Healthline.com’s got the public medical search market to themselves now. WebMd is a joke compared to it. PubMed’s too scholarly. Healthline hits the sweet spot.

    For these other search engines to survive they have to concentrate on a single niche market that’s been untapped. Going into general search is like Peru getting into an arms race with the US. That ain’t gonna turn out nicely for the upstart.

  • BlogReader

    Healthline.com’s got the public medical search market to themselves now. WebMd is a joke compared to it. PubMed’s too scholarly. Healthline hits the sweet spot.

    For these other search engines to survive they have to concentrate on a single niche market that’s been untapped. Going into general search is like Peru getting into an arms race with the US. That ain’t gonna turn out nicely for the upstart.

  • http://www.quintura.com/ Yakov

    Quintura stands for the quintessence of searching. The program has neither adware nor spyware. By the way, stay tuned to online visual search that we will launch soon. Then, no download will be required!

  • http://www.quintura.com Yakov

    Quintura stands for the quintessence of searching. The program has neither adware nor spyware. By the way, stay tuned to online visual search that we will launch soon. Then, no download will be required!

  • anon

    Clusty brings result clusters. That’s a disruptive approach to page-based results. http://clusty.com/

  • anon

    Clusty brings result clusters. That’s a disruptive approach to page-based results. http://clusty.com/

  • stic

    http://www.kartoo.com/
    but I think that you aready know this one?

  • stic

    http://www.kartoo.com/
    but I think that you aready know this one?

  • http://www.sempf.net/blog Bill Sempf

    Search will just be getting started when a user can enter a query and get a response. Right now we have a fancy keyword search - big deal. When a search can actually get me the answer to my question, and not a bunch of documents with the same words as my question, we will finally be getting started with searching.

  • http://www.sempf.net/blog Bill Sempf

    Search will just be getting started when a user can enter a query and get a response. Right now we have a fancy keyword search - big deal. When a search can actually get me the answer to my question, and not a bunch of documents with the same words as my question, we will finally be getting started with searching.

  • http://rafaelsidi.blogspot.com Rafael Sidi

    Agreed with Bill Sempfy, on dumb search results, we need to provide answers to users queries. All the major players in search are presenting records but no insights or intelligence on the content that is hidden behind those thousands of records.

    Another search company with interesting implementations is FAST Search http://www.fastsearch.com/ (disclaimer: my company uses their search engine in all our products including Engineering Village 2) Here is few sites built with FAST: sesam (http://www.sesam.no/search/?c=w&q=bjorn) and thisistravel (http://www.thisistravel.co.uk/hotel/hotel-search.do)Both of them uses categorization very cleveryly.

  • http://rafaelsidi.blogspot.com Rafael Sidi

    Agreed with Bill Sempfy, on dumb search results, we need to provide answers to users queries. All the major players in search are presenting records but no insights or intelligence on the content that is hidden behind those thousands of records.

    Another search company with interesting implementations is FAST Search http://www.fastsearch.com/ (disclaimer: my company uses their search engine in all our products including Engineering Village 2) Here is few sites built with FAST: sesam (http://www.sesam.no/search/?c=w&q=bjorn) and thisistravel (http://www.thisistravel.co.uk/hotel/hotel-search.do)Both of them uses categorization very cleveryly.

  • http://www.diabetes-problems.blogspot.com/ Parth

    Diabetese is a very deadly disease since it cannot be elimimated from a life of a person once it effects the life of a person. The best way of trouble free life simultaneously with diabetes is proper control of blood sugar level.

    Thank you.

  • http://www.diabetes-problems.blogspot.com/ Parth

    Diabetese is a very deadly disease since it cannot be elimimated from a life of a person once it effects the life of a person. The best way of trouble free life simultaneously with diabetes is proper control of blood sugar level.

    Thank you.