Outlook PM talks about upcoming RSS integration

The RSS bandit folks are apparently having a few issues getting the Newsgator API to actually do what it’s supposed to for articles, that being said I like newsgator too. Though I generally find myself using Blogbridge now instead, it syncs to it’s self nicely and can run on any box, and I don’t have to pay out anything at this point, it also breaks things up into nicer reading groups (IMO). News gator is anything but free if you want outlook integration etc.
I wouldn’t mind paying a bit for client, but object to monthly/annual fee’s. Sell me “somthing” and then get your dam hand out of my wallet. I know service focus is all the rage these days but frankly I just plain get tired of everybody trying to grab a piece of my wallet on a ongoing basis…

The RSS bandit folks are apparently having a few issues getting the Newsgator API to actually do what it’s supposed to for articles, that being said I like newsgator too. Though I generally find myself using Blogbridge now instead, it syncs to it’s self nicely and can run on any box, and I don’t have to pay out anything at this point, it also breaks things up into nicer reading groups (IMO). News gator is anything but free if you want outlook integration etc.
I wouldn’t mind paying a bit for client, but object to monthly/annual fee’s. Sell me “somthing” and then get your dam hand out of my wallet. I know service focus is all the rage these days but frankly I just plain get tired of everybody trying to grab a piece of my wallet on a ongoing basis…

Just as in real estate, successful data distribution is all about location, location, location. This Outlook feature will bring more information closer to my end users, and that is a wonderful thing.

I’m looking at the potential effect on workflow processes. Workflow notifications are constantly lost or ignored in overflowing email inboxes. RSS provides a better way to manage messages like workflow notifications. I’ve been working on this problem with my product, ZipLine (http://www.voiceoftech.com). Integration with Outlook will get me closer to the goal of a global inbox where message management is simple and all in one place.

Just as in real estate, successful data distribution is all about location, location, location. This Outlook feature will bring more information closer to my end users, and that is a wonderful thing.

I’m looking at the potential effect on workflow processes. Workflow notifications are constantly lost or ignored in overflowing email inboxes. RSS provides a better way to manage messages like workflow notifications. I’ve been working on this problem with my product, ZipLine (http://www.voiceoftech.com). Integration with Outlook will get me closer to the goal of a global inbox where message management is simple and all in one place.

I cannot speak with any authority on this as a) I don’t work for Microsoft and b) I don’t have the Preview of Outlook 12 or OneNote 12. [Shameless Hint]

Looking at Michael’s post and the simple screenshot showing the ‘RSS Subscriptions’ folder, items in this are an ‘IPM.Post’ message class (A standard Outlook item). Whichever client you use to view your RSS be it Outlook, Outlook Web Access, Internet Explorer or Outlook Mobile Access you will have full synchronisation between all of these. As soon as an item is marked as ‘read’ and a refresh is performed on the client you will have what you want Robert, full access and synchronised across any client you may wish to use.

The backend Exchange Server handles all of this for you, Newsgator and Attensa will need to find some extra services to offer as they will be dropped very quickly.

I cannot speak with any authority on this as a) I don’t work for Microsoft and b) I don’t have the Preview of Outlook 12 or OneNote 12. [Shameless Hint]

Looking at Michael’s post and the simple screenshot showing the ‘RSS Subscriptions’ folder, items in this are an ‘IPM.Post’ message class (A standard Outlook item). Whichever client you use to view your RSS be it Outlook, Outlook Web Access, Internet Explorer or Outlook Mobile Access you will have full synchronisation between all of these. As soon as an item is marked as ‘read’ and a refresh is performed on the client you will have what you want Robert, full access and synchronised across any client you may wish to use.

The backend Exchange Server handles all of this for you, Newsgator and Attensa will need to find some extra services to offer as they will be dropped very quickly.

[...] Robert Scoble questions just how integrated it will be with the features that he feels are important. Scoble is currently using and a big fan of NewsGator for managing his daily diet of RSS goodness. His biggest question revolves around the ability NewsGator has of keeping his subscriptions in sync across numerous platforms and devices. [...]

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Please Please Please microsoft DO NOT hook up with the NewsGator online service.

Scoble, I’m glad it’s working fine for you but when I upgraded from 2.0.x to 2.5.x a month ago, not only did it screw up all of my folders that I renamed for my 150+ feeds, it also would lose my changes when I restarted outlook.

Now I’ve given up on the folder issue but am having a different problem. That is, certain feeds do not update for 1-2 weeks (even yours) and some got fixed when I emailed NewsGator about it. The ultimate fix: shut off online sync for the problematic feeds and what do you know - no more problems.

I am so looking forward to switch to Outlook 12 since the 2.5.x upgrade has been a complete bust for me.

Please Please Please microsoft DO NOT hook up with the NewsGator online service.

Scoble, I’m glad it’s working fine for you but when I upgraded from 2.0.x to 2.5.x a month ago, not only did it screw up all of my folders that I renamed for my 150+ feeds, it also would lose my changes when I restarted outlook.

Now I’ve given up on the folder issue but am having a different problem. That is, certain feeds do not update for 1-2 weeks (even yours) and some got fixed when I emailed NewsGator about it. The ultimate fix: shut off online sync for the problematic feeds and what do you know - no more problems.

I am so looking forward to switch to Outlook 12 since the 2.5.x upgrade has been a complete bust for me.

[...] After reading this recent blog post by Robert Scoble and also reading more from Michael Affronti (a Program Manager for Outlook) - I’ve deciced to give Outlook “12″ a try for my main RSS feed reader. I had originally been using RSS Bandit but unfortunately RSS Bandit doesn’t work with the latest builds of Windows Vista. I’m not making my decision to perhaps ditch RSS Bandit based off the fact it doesn’t work in Vista, rather the fact they say they won’t have a .NET Framework 2.0 RTM version out for maybe a year. That’s disappointing to me. I’ve tried FeedDemon 1.5 but I don’t like it. [...]

[...] Robert Scoble also wrote about this, and brings up a very important point. Users want RSS in many different ways (mobile, web when they are away from their home computer, etc.). Syncronization is extremely important. And I also agree with Robert when he says that RSS integration with Outlook will get millions more people using RSS. Tags: rss, outlook, techcrunch, web2.0, web+2.0 Categories: Profiles, Software, RSS Aggregators | Bookmark this post with del.icio.us [...]

RSS y Outlook 12

En algunos posts anteriores ya he hablado sobre diferentes aspectos del RSS (estadísticas, evolución, publicidad etc..).
Creo que 2005 ha sido un año importante (también para mi, al empezar mi trabajo junto con Feedburner en el mercado hispano) en…

[...] Como ya me habréis oído otras veces, creo que el punto de inflexión va a ser cuando MS lance Windows Vista, y también Office 12. En ese sentido, conozco a través de este post de Scoble, el blog de Michael Affronti que es “program Manager” en el equipo de trabajo de Outlook 12. En su ultimo articulo habla justamente sobre la agregación RSS dentro del futuro Outlook. Y pinta muy bien. Sin duda el integrar las RSS, y darles un tratamiento similar al correo electrónico, no va a hacer otra cosa que simplificar su uso, y así minimizar en parte la barrera de entrada actual. Y va a traer millones de nuevos usuarios, que hasta ahora, por el motivo que fuese, no se decidan a instalar un programa/plugin, o a usar un servicio web. [...]

[...] I am not quite sure I understand why Roberdan has posted this http://blogs.msdn.com/roberdan/comments/502576.aspx very basic explanation of what an RSS feed is. Probably to start educating the masses, and preparing that amount of business people to WHAT RSS is…. preparing them to actually use the format when (soon) it will finally be mainstream with Office 12 and IE7…. to this regard Scoble says “[…]don’t underestimate the effect of Outlook 12’s support of RSS here. It’ll bring millions of new businesspeople into the RSS world. This is HUGE.[…]”. http://scobleizer.wordpress.com/2005/12/22/outlook-pm-talks-about-upcoming-rss-integration/ And he’s right of course. I keep forgetting RSS is not in the mainstream yet. “My” idea of what is mainstream is mostly polluted by my geeky visions… [...]

[...] しかもなんか、Robert Scoble が NewsGator が便利過ぎるから Outlook に乗り換えるのはちょっと なんて言ってて、いや実に彼らしいけど、いいの? [...]

[...] Interestingly, John Scoble recently commented on the upcoming RSS support in Outlook 12. Microsoft is essentially making the need for NewsGator Outlook obsolete… except for one significant detail: NewsGator Outlook synchronizes with NewsGator Online. So no matter where you read a feed item, the other client will know about it. This synchonization is so appealing that Scoble even asks if Outlook will talk to NewsGator’s servers. (My guess is: Yeah, right.) [...]

[...] Robert Scoble also wrote about this, and brings up a very important point. Users want RSS in many different ways (mobile, web when they are away from their home computer, etc.). Syncronization is extremely important and this may be the niche that allows existing players to survive. [...]

[...] Robert Scoble also wrote about this, and brings up a very important point. Users want RSS in many different ways (mobile, web when they are away from their home computer, etc.). Syncronization is extremely important and this may be the niche that allows existing players to survive. [...]

RSS en Outlook 12 primeros vistazos

Cuando MS quiere hacer algo bien lo logra. Si, es cierto, muchos odian a MS Outlook pero así y todo es el “dueño virtual” de todos los clientes de correo corporativos y no tanto. La futura integración de RSS en este cliente promete ser …

[...] But possibly more exciting to me are Newsgator’s offerings. Originally just an aggregation plugin for Outlook (note: RSS functionality will be baked into Outlook 12), they added a web interface (similar to Bloglines I expect) plus a synchronisation API allowing you to keep your subscriptions and (crucially for me) read/unread articles in sync across multiple machines. Last year, they purchased Nick Bradbury’s FeedDemon (Windows) and Brent Simmon’s Net News Wire (Mac OS X), probably the premier aggregation clients on their respective platforms. So I can maintain complete synchronisation across work, home and multiple platforms. Possibly most exciting of all, the Doppler team have expanded on their work on Doppler (nee DopplerRadio), a .NET podcasting/aggregation client, to introduce DopplerMobile, a .NET Compact Framework aggregator (ie. compatible with my Dell Axim X50V) that will also synchronize with the Newsgator online services. [...]

My aggregation nirvana

I am a big fan of Bloglines (check out my subscriptions), but given its various outages, slow downs and general lack of innovation I have been looking for something better. I have been keenly following the development of FeedLounge by Alex King and Sco…

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